tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post1322133880199921764..comments2023-11-02T06:56:57.999-04:00Comments on Saurly Yours: Government Bows to Business Over Manatee IssueSaur♥Krauthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01160101729455178399noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-89596882976278682472007-04-14T12:40:00.000-04:002007-04-14T12:40:00.000-04:00Esh: protesting=affirming. Thanks Saur...UK Englis...Esh: protesting=affirming. Thanks Saur...UK English can be odd at times!A.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08716463684593767622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-70549246602434762422007-04-11T03:03:00.000-04:002007-04-11T03:03:00.000-04:00Good golly, the Bush Administration (hell, Republi...Good golly, the Bush Administration (hell, Republicans in general) taking up the cause of business over, well, anything that gets in the way of naked profit?!! Who'da thunk it?<BR/><BR/>I'm waiting for the day when BushCo is finally on the Global Warming Train, and declares endangered species to be contributors to global warming.daveawayfromhomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06237313399294302353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-60049245535870376982007-04-10T22:42:00.000-04:002007-04-10T22:42:00.000-04:00As a boat owner, I am sort of caught in the middle...As a boat owner, I am sort of caught in the middle here.<BR/><BR/>On the one hand, preserving the environment is a good thing I suppose. If we do not protect the environment there is no more diving, no more snorkeling, no more fishing, and no more lobster / shrimp.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand - manatee speed zones suck. You hardly ever see a manatee but if you go too fast the mullet patrol give you a ticket. The sooner all the manatees croak the sooner we can get rid of all slow zones.The Lazy Iguanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12826083852416577162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-69037367109781836102007-04-10T22:24:00.000-04:002007-04-10T22:24:00.000-04:00Manatees are amazing. This was an issue years ago ...Manatees are amazing. This was an issue years ago when I was living in South Florida.<BR/>Just like so many things, the people must speak up or get involved to make a difference.Lee Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08981305686482468585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-78237139355025449932007-04-10T20:10:00.000-04:002007-04-10T20:10:00.000-04:00Saur,Those fat sea cows deserve to get run over. ...Saur,<BR/><BR/>Those fat sea cows deserve to get run over. Why don't they lose some weight and then maybe they could swim faster. Put them is a zoo where they belong.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11952435078452465044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-8184152467438378912007-04-10T15:36:00.000-04:002007-04-10T15:36:00.000-04:00Matt - boaters are supposed to report any manatee ...Matt - boaters are supposed to report any manatee strikes. Boaters that report strikes are usually not fined. The State would rather you report a strike than collect a fine. Also this encourages boaters to report strikes. <BR/><BR/>Saur - I have it from very good sources that this will in no way effect existing manatee zones. Threatened or endangered, the manatee will still fall under Federal protection. <BR/><BR/>The alligator was placed on the endangered list because it was endangered. They were over hunted. I remember when I was younger I did not see as many of the things as I see now. They went from endangered to "species of special concern" in one step. This is why limited hunting is allowed. <BR/><BR/>The change in manatee status is due to the fact that numbers are increasing. I also understand it could result in opening up some more land for development. Or something like that. <BR/><BR/>But really. Word on the water is that no speed zones will be effected.The Lazy Iguanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12826083852416577162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-71377053022466736122007-04-10T14:25:00.000-04:002007-04-10T14:25:00.000-04:00What happens when a boater hits a manatee, I wonde...What happens when a boater hits a manatee, I wonder?<BR/><BR/>Do they just speed along as if they'd merely hit a deer on the road or do they stop and file some kind of report? It almost seems like police should be interviewing witnesses....M@https://www.blogger.com/profile/11907796642043083093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-12805700356501382972007-04-10T13:58:00.000-04:002007-04-10T13:58:00.000-04:00Saur - You know what that say about assume,Saur - You know what that say about assume,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-2535390523632489312007-04-10T12:42:00.000-04:002007-04-10T12:42:00.000-04:00Ed, ahhhh, but WILL they go back on the endangered...<B>Ed,</B> ahhhh, but WILL they go back on the endangered species list? And, the only reason their already slim population doubled is BECAUSE they were declared endangered.<BR/><BR/><B>Hans,</B> I'm assuming Esh is saying that everyone thought it was a GOOD thing to declare the manatees endangered.<BR/><BR/><B>Esh,</B> Ah yes, how very true. :PSaur♥Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01160101729455178399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-18891514449339373692007-04-10T12:23:00.000-04:002007-04-10T12:23:00.000-04:00Saur - I think you have a hard fight on your hands...Saur - I think you have a hard fight on your hands when the published surveys in our state rag show that their population has more than doubled in 15 years. (2,812 in 2007 vs. 1,267 in 1991) <BR/><BR/>Assuming more tax dollars are poured into endangered species than those that are threatened, I guess I wouldn't have too much problem with moving their status to threatened and keeping tabs on their numbers. If they drop, then they go back on and boating restrictions resume.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13214319366049620074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-10951211662015235962007-04-10T12:10:00.000-04:002007-04-10T12:10:00.000-04:00eshuneutics - "...protesting their love of this EN...eshuneutics - "...protesting their love of this ENDANGERED animal." Were they showing their support for the manatee or protesting it being on the endangered species list? I'm a little unclear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-37567342299009964912007-04-10T11:52:00.000-04:002007-04-10T11:52:00.000-04:00A few weeks ago, the BBC did a whole report on the...A few weeks ago, the BBC did a whole report on the manatee. It was full of Florida people protesting their love of this ENDANGERED animal. Well, it has become un-endangered very quickly. Shows how relative that term "endangered" really is.A.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08716463684593767622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-45641687189893097602007-04-10T11:42:00.000-04:002007-04-10T11:42:00.000-04:00Hans, It's definately connected to the water power...<B>Hans,</B> It's definately connected to the water powersports industry, which is directly affected by/connected to tourism. So you're right, but it's a little more than that. And, surprisingly, there are plenty of people willing to make hash out of manatees...Saur♥Krauthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01160101729455178399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11687945.post-5192913658094086912007-04-10T11:05:00.000-04:002007-04-10T11:05:00.000-04:00I think you're going to have a hard time finding p...I think you're going to have a hard time finding people who come down against manatees.<BR/><BR/>My question is the connection to tourism. I suspect that the culprits are either connected to the water powersports or land development industries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com